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Old October 16th, 2001
Panthera Onca
 
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Default No

I'm not a developer, but I am skeptical. I can almost ALWAYS reproduce soemthing that someone says the software does. I've done extensive testing and under no circumstances have I EVER seen two file names with the same size returned from a search... I want to see your proof because I can't duplicate your result no matter what I try.


Here are a few of my observations and ways to observe them yourself:


1) All files that match the search with the same size are counted as the same file.

Duplication procedure:
Do a search for some extremely popular song with as few terms as possible. Pick the highest scoring file and start the download. Before it's done, pause the download, then look at your resumeinfo.txt file and check out the remote file names (in the [HOST] sections)


2) Only the first matched returned file of a particular size from a host is shown by XoloX, the rest are discarded.

Duplication procedure:
Run Bearshare on port 6437, allow one host connection and accept incoming hosts, but don't auto conenct.

Share your windows setup directory, and make sure that the .cab is a shared extension.

Open XoloX, go to your preferences, and connect to localhost on port 6347.

Do a search for the non numeric portion of the cab file names and CAB. In 98 the search would be 'WIN98 CAB" (no quotes) This test shows that XoloX will only show the first file returned of any size from a host.


3) All but the first returned MP3 from the latest versions of BearShare or Gnotella can be downloaded, the rest are corrupted.

Duplication procedure:
Run Bearshare/Gnotella on port 6437, allow one host connection and accept incoming hosts, but don't auto conenct.

Share some MP3s in BearShare/Gnotella

Open XoloX, go to your preferences, and connect to localhost on port 6347.

Search for ".mp3" (no quotes) and look at the first results that come in. (those will be from you)


4) XoloX limits outgoing results to 30, not 100 as was previously suggested to the public (long time ago)

Duplication procedure:
Run XoloX and another client as shown above, and share > 30 of a file type.

Search in your second client for .ext (where ext is the file type you have shared) and count the results that come from your IP (or localhost)
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Old October 17th, 2001
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Default

That's an awful lot of typing and I'll admit I'm not going to do all that fannying about just to test it. That's a developer job. I do it at work. I'm not going to test someone elses software for fun.

Bear in mind I don't see any of the problems that lots of people seem to be reporting with Zone Alarm, memory usage, freezing and disk thrashing. PC's are always different even with the same OS and hardware. There are so many variables it's virtually impossible to get a flat comparison. I'm also running a dual cpu machine so it's also entirely possible that you couldn't duplicate my results anyway. You could then merrily accuse me of forging any screen shots! (Which would also be a lot of work that I can't be bothered to do)

While I appreciate you like to see it for yourself in this case you'll just have to believe me. Or not. It makes very little difference either way!
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Old October 21st, 2001
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Join Date: September 12th, 2001
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I posted the message because I have duplicate, but you need to understand why :

After the search result (from an author), i select approx 50 files to download (many album if possible).
But i didnt look very very well each title (impossible to spent one hour to select files)
And I select important files I realy want more than once because I cant manage the download process because i am doing something else.
So I selected some files more than once, please look at my example (morcheeba)
Then I go to job, and when i come back (10H later) i have approx 40 on the 50 files and some duplicate.

The post was NOT a "technical" post, NOT telling that there is a bug in Xolox.

It is a new feature request !
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Old October 21st, 2001
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Join Date: September 12th, 2001
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Oups I forgot to add something :

Often I make the process (search and download) several times on an author I like very much, (to try to get all the song from the author).

In this case too, i have many duplicate.

And I am sure that most of my duplicate are here, because i selected song that i was already having.

So the feature request is to verify better in /completed about similar song name when downloading a new song.

Thanks to Xolox team
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Old October 22nd, 2001
Panthera Onca
 
Join Date: September 7th, 2001
Location: CA
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Default Hmm...

ok, so which are you seeing?

A) Two files in the same search with the same size and different names.

B) Two files in seperate searches with the same size but different names.

C) Two files in the same search with the same name and different file sizes.

D) A file with the same size as one you are trying to download but with a different name, recieved from a seperate search.

I've never seen A

I've seen B

I've seen C

I suppose D is possible, but haven't payed much attention... I almost always pick items with scores > 3 so always tend to get what I'm looking for.
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Old October 22nd, 2001
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well i have see option E and F , G and H :

E) Two files in seperate searches with different size and same names

F) Two files in seperate searches with same size and same names

G) Two files in seperate searches with different size and similar (but little different) names

H) Two files in seperate searches with same size and similar (but little different) names


all 4 option make duplicate song in my computer

I hope this will help you.
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Old October 22nd, 2001
Panthera Onca
 
Join Date: September 7th, 2001
Location: CA
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Default I see... I think.

There's obviousy been some communication error, as I've been assumeing you meant 'A' all this time. Of course seperate searches will hold the possability of seeing the same files, as they are blind to eachother's results.

I won' t go in to how I think downloads should be handled in the case of multiple overlapping searches, but I do hope the devs have been at least READING the GDF and are busy implementing some of the ideas there.
 


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