thanks for reply the ping is actually wierd, can't say I have seen this before:

C:\>ping router.limewire.com

Pinging router.limewire.com [64.61.25.139] with 32 bytes of data:

PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
PING: transmit failed, error code 65.
PING: transmit failed, error code 65.

Ping statistics for 64.61.25.139:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>


So I did some more checking and I can't ping anything actually, but I still get online..........this is really confusing.......any ideas?