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Old May 30th, 2001
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Default Re: Re: If it walks like spyware and talks like spyware...

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Originally posted by Brotaris
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Do they say unique ID for every user? or for every Onflow player ?  There is a difference in level of privacy.
Oh yes, just because they can't tell who's typing on my keyboard I should feel safe? I'm sorry, but no thanks! Maybe you're willing to sell out your privacy for some free software but don't expect everyone to follow suit.

The sad part is most users are never aware what they're giving up until it's gone. Even if you manage to make it through all the convoluted privacy statements, unless you're a lawyer and a CS major you're unlikely to know what the real "cost" of the software is.

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Personal info is not required for this type of monitoring. I mean, what possibly could they need to know other than "Hey, this guy went to that sports site, so let's pop up an ad for an online sports store" ?? They don't need any personal info for that, I'm sure.
Yes, and to know it's a sports sites it must send the URL (along with your unique ID number) to some central database somewhere. Don't think they don't keep that info.

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It can associate me personally ???? WOW! You mean if my wife surfs around, then I do some surfing, they can tell who's who??? DOUBLE WOW!!
Don't worry, that's on its way...

http://www.msnbc.com/news/578203.asp

However, unless you're using a public PC it makes little difference. So they Spy on your family instead of just you. I'm glad that gives you a warm cozy feeling, but somehow I don't feel reassured.

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And okay, you wanted a choice whether to install it or not; well, that choice is now there.  The fact that it took Vinnie awhile to do that for us is a moot point now. Why bring it up anymore? The "problem" has been fixed!
Vinnie's attitude and the fact that it *had* to be fixed in the first place is enough to turn me away. Believe me, if people hadn't made such a fuss over it do you think you'd have that choice? Now Vinnie has started attacking LimeWire for not fully bowing down to his idea of what gnet should be. It's become clear he wants to co-opt the network for his own purposes.

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If you like Bearshare, keep using it and work with Vinnie to make it better. If you have a problem with Bearshare, go ahead and tell him about it - in a mature, productive manner, no matter if he lashes out or not (which he wouldn't do unprovoked anyway).
I did try this for awhile. I really liked BearShare and thought it an excellent application, but after trying to warn Vinnie that some of the new "features" could hurt other peers, I discovered he really didn't want to hear (many of these features backfired and had to later be removed BTW).
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